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+From: kazar#@andrew.cmu.edu (Mike Kazar)
+To: rms@PREP.AI.MIT.EDU (Richard M. Stallman)
+Subject: Re: Fwd: RT diffs for gdb version 2.1
+Cc: zs01#@andrew.cmu.edu (Zalman Stern)
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+From: kazar#@andrew.cmu.edu (Mike Kazar)
+To: rms@PREP.AI.MIT.EDU (Richard M. Stallman)
+Subject: Re: Fwd: RT diffs for gdb version 2.1
+Cc: zs01#@andrew.cmu.edu (Zalman Stern)
+In-Reply-To: <4UiN0ly00Vs8Njw0PC@andrew.cmu.edu>
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+I'm afraid that neither of your proposed simplifications to the gdb RT port
+actually work.
+
+First, the trace table problem. The fundamental problem is that gdb expects
+to be able to pass in a frame pointer and get that frame's parent. This is
+the purpose of FRAME_CHAIN, a macro whose one parameter is the frame whose
+parent is desired.
+
+This is simply insufficient information with which to compute the preceding
+frame's address. In order to truly appreciate how bad things are, let me
+describe the procedure involved in going from a set of saved registers
+(including the pc), say after a core dump occurs, to the address of the
+preceding frame. I assure you that you'll be shocked by its complexity....
+
+I start off knowing only one thing: the PC of the guy who pushed the last
+stack frame. At the time of a core dump, this is in the saved PC, and for
+other stack frames, it is in register R15 (the return address is put in R15
+by the procedure call sequence). My first goal is to compute the frame
+register number! Not the contents of the frame register, but the register
+number itself, because the RT calling convention lets you change frame
+pointers from procedure to procedure! So, I scan for the trace table, based
+on the PC, and obtain a structure that gives the frame register number (for
+both of our C compilers, this is R13, but it doesn't have to be), the number
+of arguments to the procedure, the space used by the locals and the number of
+registers saved by the procedure prolog. This enables me to take the frame
+pointer, compute the offset of the saved registers off of this frame pointer
+and essentially restore the registers to the state they were at the time this
+procedure was called. R15 now contains *its* callers PC, and I can redo this
+procedure again to back up another frame.
+
+In essence, in order to compute the preceding frame's address, I need more
+than just the current frame's address. I need the full machine state at the
+time of the call, including all of the registers since I don't know which one
+will even turn out to be the frame pointer for the preceding procedure.
+
+This is why I put in the frame caching code. Note that even were I to assume
+that the frame pointer is always in R13 (and this is almost certainly a
+mistake; IBM will surely eventually come up with a compiler where the frame
+pointer is NOT r13), I still either need r15 or the PC (depending upon which
+frame we're dealing with) in order to compute the preceding frame address.
+
+As for the _foo v.s. _.foo issue, there are two problems. First, we can not
+simply ignore _foo symbols, since an _foo symbol is only "junk" if there is
+(possibly later) an _.foo symbol. We might be able to have the processing
+for the "_.foo" change the value in the symbol table placed under the name
+_foo. I do not know if this will work, since I do not know what processing
+is done when a symbol is first encountered, and how much can be done a second
+time. The second problem is that sometimes we need to see what is in the
+variable named _foo, and we can't if it actually refers to _.foo. I
+personally might be willing to live with this loss of functionality, but
+other people probably would not.
+
+As for initialize.h, we simply have no guarantees that IBM won't again change
+the junk they stick in front of procedures in the text segment. Already,
+depending upon which compiler (and we use both), pcc puts a funny string (and
+maybe an integer, too) in front of every procedure, while the metaware hc
+compiler puts a funny string in front of the first procedure in a file, but
+nothing in front of the others. IBM has made it clear to us that they feel
+free to change this at any time, so I feel quite strongly that it would be a
+mistake to assume that they've finished playing around with junk at the start
+of the text. BTW, for all I know, some of these magic text strings disappear
+when you compile with -O. They certainly *should*.
+
+ Mike
+
+
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